Sean Tilley
 Peoria, Peoria County, Illinois, United States of AmericaTue, 28 Jul 2015 22:48:32 -0500 
@Use Cases+ I've been musing over this for a little while now. We all know that channels can like one another, and they can also message each other, connect, and rate.

So basically, you would have an extension that would load a picture, profile data, orientation preferences, allow people to block each other, and somehow discover one another by comparing distance between cities.

The funny thing is, the platform can in fact do most of this on it's own. All you would need would be a simple customized interface for a few interactions, notifications if people mutually like each other, a way to see who looked at you (already exists), a decent discovery method, maybe a privacy default for strangers using the app, and people to use it.
Sean Tilley
 Peoria, Peoria County, Illinois, United States of America (Map)Mon, 27 Jul 2015 23:26:43 -0500 
@Channel One+

At some point, we're going to need to make the proverbial jump from one repo to the other. Is there anything that current RedMatrix hub admins need to do in order to make the switch?
Andrew Manning
 Tue, 28 Jul 2015 05:27:45 -0500 
Would it be useful to track a list of needed work in some kind of ticket/issue system? Do we already have this? GitHub issues can fulfill that need in addition to being a bug fixing tool. We can just label things with the "Help wanted" label.
Mike Macgirvin
 Tue, 28 Jul 2015 06:11:56 -0500 
we need a way to migrate the db. We also need a good sell page, and we need lots more stuff for devs to read in order to bring them up to speed so they can hit the ground running.
Sean Tilley
 Peoria, Peoria County, Illinois, United States of America (Map)Sat, 25 Jul 2015 21:04:53 -0500 
Centralized social media is about to become so much more horrible.

Twitter is deleting stolen jokes on copyright grounds


It now appears Twitter is using its legal authority to crack down on these tweet-stealers. A number of tweets have been deleted on copyright grounds for apparently stealing a bad joke.

#Twitter #DCMA #Copyright #Censorhip
Thomas Willingham
 Sat, 25 Jul 2015 21:06:02 -0500 
This is a good move.  I was very pissed off when that porn star (I can't remember which) got all the credit for that offensive joke she stole from Bash.
Thomas Willingham
 Sat, 25 Jul 2015 21:14:29 -0500 
Everyone is like "Wah, you can't write rape jokes, that's bad"

I'm like "she didn't write it, it was on bash fifteen years ago".

They're like, "you're missing the point".

I'm like "yeah, I suppose the point is if you are going to steal a rape joke from Bash, it should be it isn't rape if you kill them first, not the surprise sex one".

They're like "you're a bastard".
Sean Tilley
 Peoria, Peoria County, Illinois, United States of America (Map)Sat, 25 Jul 2015 02:00:39 -0500 
After nearly five years of being without it, I now have a driver's license! I can now legally drive a car!
 Mon, 27 Jul 2015 12:38:17 -0500 
Towing a trailer with a 1,000l cube full of water falls into the same category.
Adam Robertson
 Mon, 27 Jul 2015 12:40:43 -0500 
We also have cars out of necessity. We live in the foothills, where all roads are hills and twists.
Sean Tilley
 Peoria, Peoria County, Illinois, United States of America (Map)Sat, 25 Jul 2015 01:59:41 -0500 
@Channel One+ Would it make sense to offer some customization on sane defaults for a given hub? On the one hand, I could understand why people might not want that - on the other hand, it seems to require a conscious effort on the behalf of a user on a hub to allow people to like / comment on their posts after connecting with one another. This can be adjusted if you know how to adjust your permissions yourself - but many newcomers might not know that, and might not care to fix them.

For community-building purposes, it may not be a wholly bad idea to allow comments and likes as a default setting for new channels that register.
Mike Macgirvin
 Sat, 25 Jul 2015 02:22:04 -0500 
A site or plugin can change any of the permission defaults, but that sounds like a bug. For the normal social role, connections should be able to comment and like. The restricted role is debatable, and the private role might wish to choose who can comment. I don't remember the specifics of all the roles off the top. I thought this was all working fine. So there's either a bug or we haven't adequately warned people of  the consequences of selecting a very private role
Sean Tilley
 Peoria, Peoria County, Illinois, United States of America (Map)Sat, 25 Jul 2015 01:39:05 -0500 
Occupy SocialOccupy Social wrote the following post 5 days ago
Still alive and kicking. This hub is still up and running, and registrations are open! For anyone that missed out on initial registration, you can join the network and create your own channels at right here.

Sean Tilley
 Peoria, Peoria County, Illinois, United States of America (Map)Fri, 24 Jul 2015 20:28:00 -0500 
@Hubzilla+ @Andrew Manning


Work in progress. :)

Repo can be found here; plan on iterating really quickly.

General game plan:
  • Format demo HTML to reflect the copy and styling that we want.
  • Make suggestions and adjustments via GitHub Issues / this thread / other Hubzilla threads for design and copy
  • Finalize branding and assets, something that can work in different sizes / colors
  • Once we're satisfied, slice up the bits and recreate in Hubzilla natively!
We have the potential to make something really badass here. Let's do it!
Mike Macgirvin
 Sun, 26 Jul 2015 20:52:31 -0500 
instead of individuals seeking a social communication platform free from censorship and surveillance.

This does nothing for the project except to increase conflict (notice a common theme here?).  

Those who think they are well informed and technically knowledgeable about censorship and surveillance issues will simply argue about our implementation. Those who don't care will do what they've always done. We build reasonable privacy and security into our product because it's the right thing to do. As soon as you define "reasonable" you've created conflict - heaps of conflict; and will spend all your time arguing over the nitty details with folks who never had any desire to use your product to begin with. In short you're just wasting everybody's time and giving folks things to argue about. Screw it. We build software that creates connected websites. That's what we do. You can fight the NSA and/or Facegoogle if you want but you'll find as I did that you're fighting alone and spending all your time arguing with folks over your implementation and it's a moot point because you already lost.

Anyway, the text. This is far from a done deal, but I replace the "build anything" with

Build connected websites.

Hubs provide their own communication system, and they provide the blueprints to build many kinds of sites - forums, podcasts, social networks, media streams, and news outlets. Hubzilla hubs all have the ability to connect with each other for network scale authentication, access control, communications, and directory services.

I replaced "Connect with anyone" with

Connect with anyone.

The entire source code of Hubzilla is publicly available on Github and is MIT licensed, which means you can not only review the code and verify its correct behaviour but also modify it to your own wishes.

That's as far as I've gotten at the moment.
Sean Tilley
 Sun, 26 Jul 2015 21:20:56 -0500 
Worth mentioning, I will have more changes coming this week. In process of moving between apartments and ending a bedbug nightmare.

I will take changes and PRs in my repo. I know everyone is eager to get the ball rolling; I will try to sit down tonight or tomorrow and hack together some of my layout and copy ideas.
Tazman DeVille
Thu, 23 Jul 2015 21:26:06 -0500 
This theme you're using here (3 column) seems, to me, would lend itself well to a news portal, provided one could control widgets in the side bars. The rating stuff wouldn't be partiicularly useful,
and being able to use such a layout on a front/home page for a hub, with articles/posts from multiple authors would be good ( I think there's been mention of that).
my newsportal them was an attempt at doing such a thing, but I petered out before I managed to fully realize the dream I had for that...
being able to control some footer widgets would be useful, and maybe splitting posts into more columns (that ain't an easy thing to accomplish). controlling ad content in posts, widgets, sidebars, footer widgets, etc., but that's widget work more than layout/theme work.

Which theme is this one?

If I could just make a widgets that source channel feeds, distribute them in several columns, then I could definitely put together a newsportal site. I think once such a widget is made, the layout of a page in comanche is practically trivial.

#newsportals #blogs #layouts #themes #widgets
Tazman DeVille
 ChristophsisSat, 25 Jul 2015 05:00:18 -0500 
Tazman DeVille
 Nar ShaddaaSat, 25 Jul 2015 05:37:19 -0500 
Considering an entire hub dedicated to music - band/album reviews and stuff...would clone @rockeros to the hub and make it the home hub for that channel, see if I could get @Abram Elin (haven't seen the dude around for a while, but was offline for like a month or more) to do the same for @H.F. Metal , and source some other music channels like @Progressive Rock and stuff...make a home page with feeds from all of these and more channels, try to get some more music channels, like for folk music, bluegrass, baroque, classical, and whatever (I had a deadhead channel but it was on zotaria, which I think is gone...would make a new deadhead/psychedelia/jamband channel). See if we can get a guest guitar columnist...(I think I know a decent picker or two about the hubzilla networks...). We have plenty of knowledgeable music enthusiasts, musicians, etc. around here to generate content.

Probably NOT going to host it on my server that already has 2 hubs ( and, but maybe rent a little classic vps ($2.99/month gets  a single core 10gb raid box with 10gb RAM).
Sean Tilley
 Peoria, Peoria County, Illinois, United States of America (Map)Thu, 23 Jul 2015 13:39:52 -0500 

I'm playing with my first really custom theme layout, and I've been interested in creating a few custom widgets to go into the theme. A few questions:

  • Is it possible to bundle a widget with a theme itself, or does it have to be installed in some other manner (for example, as an add-on)?
  • Is there a list of variables / values that I can plug into a widget somewhere? I was particularly interested in creating a few dedicated widgets for my layout, which could involve separating the connections list from the fullprofile widget, adding links and badges into a side-menu, creating a widget with a profile description, showing the latest photos shared by a channel, etc.
I'm pretty stoked to get this going, as greater flexibility could lead to some better themes for the platform.
Mike Macgirvin
 Thu, 23 Jul 2015 18:27:47 -0500 
It appears we've got another chicken/egg problem. In fact there are even more chicken/egg problems related to this as I glance at what's going on. The short story is we need to load the comanche declarations so we know what theme to use. But this causes a few problems with comanche stuff that's defined in the theme. Loading theme specific widgets are one of these problems, but so is finding theme specific comanche layouts in the first place - as comanche tells us what theme to use, and the theme might wish to tell us what comanche to use.

There is no way out of this mess that isn't a hack. I'm just trying to think up the least objectionable hack.
Mike Macgirvin
Thu, 23 Jul 2015 20:52:34 -0500 
Trying to come up with a logic that works...

I'll get to widgets next, but the first thing we need to resolve is that if a layout file defines a new theme, we can't go back and load a new theme-specific layout file at that point. I think this is workable because if you're using a layout to over-ride the theme, you're already over-riding the whole layout and won't be needing a theme based layout. We just need to manage expectations and then document it.

OK, that out of the way - now for the widgets.

You'll want to create a file in your theme's php directory called 'widget_myawesomewidget.php' if you want to have a theme based widget called myawesomewidget. This requires a libcomanche fix that will be checked in momentarily [done].
Sean Tilley
 Peoria, Peoria County, Illinois, United States of America (Map)Wed, 22 Jul 2015 17:49:10 -0500 
Slow-loading emails are a type of hell that should not exist. #GodWhy
Sean Tilley
 Peoria, Peoria County, Illinois, United States of America (Map)Wed, 22 Jul 2015 10:27:10 -0500 
@Use Cases+

Something that I've been musing on recently regards Hubzilla's aims to act as a CMS. I think content management is a worthwhile goal, and for general site construction / platform-building, this is great. However, what about a use-case specifically for news sites? For example, could Hubzilla be used to make sites along the lines of WebUpd8, OMG! Ubuntu!, Ars Technica, or The Verge?

Personally, I think that they could, but there are a few puzzle pieces that are missing here. Specifically:
  • The ability to save drafts
  • The ability to schedule posts to be published at a certain time.
  • A way for editors to see what's in the post queue, and review/approve a piece before it goes out
  • A dedicated interface for composing articles, and not just blog posts / statuses
  • A field for assigning a thumbnail to an article
  • Pretty URLs, for easily shareable post links (doesn't have to be the internal URL, could just be an alias)
  • Buttons on the end of a post to share to other networks (free network or otherwise)
  • A permission setting that by default lets everyone comment on a public post.
I feel like a general "news platform" add-on might be a really solid thing for Hubzilla. It would be possible to create a general theme and series of widgets that could be shipped with it.
Tazman DeVille
 MalastareThu, 23 Jul 2015 20:50:35 -0500 last edited: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 20:51:17 -0500  
Really, I think if people want to share (desire thee xposure) on the bullshite networks, let them!
I made xposting plugins for as many networks as I could once, because I saw the value in diversification in a publishing platform.
I am, after all, in business for myself and wanted exposure when I first came to friendica a few years ago, had profiles/blogs on numerous services (livejournal, dreamwitch, blogger, tumblr, posterous, etc.) precisely for that reason. At the time, being linked on so many platforms was good SEO, not so sure it is now.
But redmatrix (a.k.a hubzilla) has immense potential as a commercial publishing platform, and should be exploited as such.
Just because it's FLOSS and can serve numerous other purposes (for activists who require the freedom, privacy and security to communicate beyond corporate fascist control/government spies, etc. to personal and family communications, etc.) doesn't mean that nobody should use it to generate revenue and help make a living if it lends itself to such purposes. Fuck it: we've all got to eat, G0dd4mn1t!
Thomas Willingham
 Thu, 23 Jul 2015 21:59:57 -0500 
or you wouldn't be trying to buy up and save the Yorkshire moors

On the plus side, it could at least be used as an example in Urban Dictionary's Epic Fail entry.
Sean Tilley
 Peoria, Peoria County, Illinois, United States of America (Map)Tue, 21 Jul 2015 12:50:54 -0500 
This may be a quality way to waste time.


Ugly Mike lives in a crapsack world populated by deformed mutants with diminished intelligence. Something got into the water a long time ago, affecting absolutely everyone living in the area. The damaage is now completely irreversable, and enough time has gone on that no one remembers a time before this. Now, the inhabitants struggle to read and perform basic mathematics.

Ugly Mike longs for the sensual touch of a maiden, and ventures out of his underground cave to find love.
Davide Pesenti
 Tue, 21 Jul 2015 15:52:31 -0500 
yes I know, just #joking
Sean Tilley
 Tue, 21 Jul 2015 15:56:04 -0500 
The character was actually inspired by this:

Sean Tilley
 Peoria, Peoria County, Illinois, United States of America (Map)Sun, 19 Jul 2015 13:14:58 -0500 
Hitting the guitar books today. Some of these chords are like twisting your hands into pretzels. Muscle memory be damned!
Davide Pesenti
 Wed, 22 Jul 2015 05:15:59 -0500 
Me and my guitar
Always in the same mood
I am mostly flesh and bones
And he is mostly wood
Never does grow impatient
For the changes I don't know, no
If he can't go to heaven
Maybe, I don't want to go, lord

Picture me in the key of e
Call me uncle john
Any fool can easily see
That we go back a long time
Feel something like fine to me
There's no such thing as the wrong time
He hops up on my knee
Singing, get down pops
It's song time

Every now and then I'm a lonely man
It's nice to know that I've got a friend
Puts his power right in my hand
All l've got to do is the best I can
If I can
Got a dog named david
Got a bird named dinah
Got a birthmark on my thigh
In the shape of mainland china
Got a somewhat southern accent
'cause I come from carolina
And if you want to find us
We'll be walking right behind you

I hear horns
I hear voices
I hear strings
Seems I was born
With too many choices
Now what am I going to do
With all these extra things
As they serve to confuse me, really

It's me and my guitar
Essentially me and my guitar
Oh maybe a few friends fall by for tea
A little bit of who do you love
But pay no attention
To the man behind the curtain
It's me and my guitar
Having fun, boogie, woogie, uh-huh
Me and my guitar

#^Me & My Guitar by James Taylor
by rangersidekick on YouTube
Tazman DeVille
 TethWed, 22 Jul 2015 05:22:39 -0500 
Good ol' JT!
Sean Tilley
 Peoria, Peoria County, Illinois, United States of America (Map)Sat, 18 Jul 2015 15:59:30 -0500 last edited: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 16:00:26 -0500  

This is what progress looks like. I regret putting this off for so long; in hindsight the way this platform approaches layout templates actually makes a good amount of sense. (Reminds me of Drupal's regions and blocks system a bit, but only slightly)


Not quite where I want to be yet, but playing with .pdl files (and eventually widgets themselves) will allow me to tap into full-layout-fuckery potential. My hope is that this will allow me to finish some of my themes that don't currently have a third row on the side
Tazman DeVille
 KaminoTue, 21 Jul 2015 21:52:35 -0500 
OIC...just had to scroll down...this image is HUGE!
Tazman DeVille
 DantooineTue, 21 Jul 2015 21:54:16 -0500 
Although, it's clear that Debian is still the Mothership, with more derivatives than any other.
Sean Tilley
 Peoria, Peoria County, Illinois, United States of America (Map)Fri, 17 Jul 2015 23:57:39 -0500 
The internet in a nutshell. This is probably my favorite #MontyPython sketch.

Charles Roth MPC
 Sat, 18 Jul 2015 05:38:22 -0500 
@Sean Tilley have you watched Fawlty Towers?
 Sat, 18 Jul 2015 05:50:32 -0500 
there is a common cleese theme here. i point you to this clip not so much for cleese but because this says all you need to know about modern britain and is classic comedy. i remember when i was younger and thought that class was a thing of the past naive young fool that i was  

#^I Know My Place
by António Miguel on YouTube
Sean Tilley
 Peoria, Peoria County, Illinois, United States of America (Map)Fri, 17 Jul 2015 13:47:28 -0500 
I'm going to be trying my hand at comedy in the next few weeks at the Jukebox Comedy Club Tourney 2015. I've never done standup before, but I'd like to think that I'm capable of being funny. The whole thing might just end up being really awkward, but I'm excited to give it a try.
Sean Tilley
 Mon, 20 Jul 2015 09:54:12 -0500 
That's okay, there should be more rounds coming up in the future. Let me know if you're ever able to make it, and I'll find a way to work you into the act.
Jake Moomaw
 TatooineMon, 20 Jul 2015 10:28:10 -0500 
I don't know if that is actually incentive or not... ;)
Sean Tilley
 Peoria, Peoria County, Illinois, United States of America (Map)Thu, 16 Jul 2015 14:28:27 -0500 
Satanic Metal is all fine and dandy, but what about Satanic Smooth Jazz?
Sean Tilley
Sat, 18 Jul 2015 01:31:22 -0500 from Diaspora
Tazman DeVille
 Sat, 18 Jul 2015 12:40:39 -0500 
Are you commenting on our cheesy bromance?
Sean Tilley
 Peoria, Peoria County, Illinois, United States of America (Map)Mon, 13 Jul 2015 11:37:22 -0500 
Sometimes, it's super frustrating to have an original composition stuck in your head for instruments that you have no idea how to play. I need to take lessons and join a swing band or something.
Tazman DeVille
 Mon, 13 Jul 2015 23:47:34 -0500 
had fans

It can get hot in the studio. You need fans.
Thomas Willingham
 Tue, 14 Jul 2015 06:26:36 -0500 
To survive in a band, it's at least ten thousand times easier if you have an impromptu band.

This requires you can put on a show by yourself in case nobody turns up.  It also requires you can think on your feet when you get a bizzare combination of instruments turning up.  But if you keep it informal "I'm playing here on Wednesday, if anyone wants to turn up" then you can do some really good shit without any of the politics.
Sean Tilley
 Peoria, Peoria County, Illinois, United States of America (Map)Sun, 12 Jul 2015 16:02:06 -0500 
As there is a strong possibility of #RedMatrix changing its name, I've decided it would be fun to play around with branding. I don't know what the process currently is for putting those kind of assets together, but I would love to help come up with something that looks polished, and can easily appeal to end users as well as sysadmins.

Open to suggestions and collaborations on this one.